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Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:27:00 -
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So...
The result of this is going to be:
1) An overall net loss in refining/reprocessing?
Exacerbated when performed in an NPC station, compared to a POS.
2) POS refining array's are getting their cooldown slashed, so they actually get used, and used pretty damn effectively?
3) Prices for refined minerals will invariably go up as they become less common, resulting in an inflated price for just about everything else in the game?
From reading this article loosely, are all these assumptions correct?
If so, the increase to price sucks for new players who already have a hard time. |
Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:01:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Janine Ibanez wrote:Right now the ore compression BPOs each require the corresponding ore reprocessing skill to level 4 to use the BPO in a rorqual.
Currently, you don't need any refining or reprocessing skills to do ore compression, just some 425mm BPOs and production efficiency level 5.
Will the ore reprocessing skill requirements be going away to use the compression arrays along with the compression BPOs, or will anyone planning to do compression also have to train the relevant ore reprocessing skills? We're not planning on having skills to be able to compress ores in the Rorqual / Starbase Compression Arrays so far. Just right-click the ore and get bacon. Again, this may change depending on time / feedback though.
So does these changes effectively mean that if you have access to a POS (in high, low or null), then you can refine with a ~70-75% (can't remember the exact figure), and compress ore without any skill training whatsoever?
Whereas people who refine ores in a high/low sec station have to spend half a year training, and still struggle to get comparable refining rates? |
Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:15:00 -
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Orion Guardian wrote:Neki Koskanaiken wrote:Many short sighted industrialists might QQ over this but let me assure you this is a very good change. It will improve the health of EVE in so many ways, it's blowing my mind. Well it is a small boost for Ore -> Minerals at some point, but why should they rejoice when there is NO WAY to compress minerals for good transportation?
I think you'll find that with simpler and more accessible compression, you won't need to export minerals from high to null. You'll transport compressed minerals instead. |
Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:17:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Reizak StormFury wrote:
I think you'll find that with simpler and more accessible compression, you won't need to export minerals from high to null. You'll transport compressed minerals instead.
Compressed minerals don't work any more after this.
I mis-typed. See my edited post. |
Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:22:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Orion Guardian wrote:Weaselior wrote:Orion Guardian wrote:[think about how easy it is to buy minerals in Highsec and how unlikely it is to have the same amount or ore bought....] and now this will change, obviously think a little more I did, and yes it will change, but seeing the high Mineral consumption in Highsec I am not sure it will change much. Unless I am missing the point: Nullsec is not the biggest user of Minerals in itself (most of it is build in Highsec after all). So the Minerals are needed there as well. So if the stuff is left as ore to be exported to nullsec it is missing as potential quick sold stock in high. It gets alot more complex and the missing part of converting minerals back into a compressed state (The compressed ore -> Mineral side is quite easy, the backward-reaction that used to be Module compression is negated.) The economic system will adapt, but like a chemical reaction: If the backward path is completely blocked there are consequences far greater than just "tweaking the system" i'm going to put up buy orders for compressed ore and pubbies will fill them, because the ore is worth 14.4% more to me than them the way they get the MOST money is to compress it, or sell it to someone who will compress it you're fixated on compressing minerals instead of buying pre-compressed ore
Exactly this, which is a move in the right direction IMHO.
The whole "you don't need skills if you have a POS" thing vexes me no end though. |
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